Episodes › Ep. 55 2025-04-16 · 45:50
MacGruber: Remembering Val Kilmer
A special tribute episode in which Will Forte and John Solomon return to share memories of MacGruber and Val Kilmer, who passed away April 1, 2025. The stories cover Kilmer's casting as Dieter von Kunth, his stay at Forte's house, his Mark Twain show, his SNL hosting and Top Gun 30 Years Later sketch, and the Barkley MacGruber sketch. Hosts Seth Meyers, Andy Samberg (Jorma and Akiva also contribute) honor him with laughter and love.
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Shorts discussed: MacGruber (SNL sketches and film), Top Gun 30 years later (SNL sketch), Behind the Music parody (Rock & Roll Heaven), MacGruber: Charles Barkley sketch
Guests: Will Forte (MacGruber star/co-writer, shares stories of Val Kilmer…), John Solomon (MacGruber collaborator, returns to share memories of Kilmer)
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Talking about Val for a year
1:52Jorma says the group could talk about Kilmer for a year and still not cover who he was. The line sets the tone for a tribute episode.
We could talk about him for a year and it wouldn't cover even a dent of who he was.
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Casting Kilmer as Dieter von Kunth
2:35The hosts discuss how Kilmer, who read the part cold at the table read, landed the role of Dieter von Kunth. Seth jokes that few actors or agents would take such a name.
Dieter von Kunth. Yes. So in the very writing of the script, you have eliminated probably 85% of actors who just are going to hard no.
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Kilmer read the part cold
2:55Jorma reveals Kilmer admitted he read the MacGruber role cold at the table read and nailed it.
he admitted to us afterwards that he read it cold and he nailed it.
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Top Secret as a formative comedy
3:57Jorma recalls Top Secret as the first movie that made him double over laughing and realize adults could be this funny. The film was a childhood favorite for the group.
to me was the first movie that i saw where i watched it and like was doubled over most of the time
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The one joke Kilmer refused
4:28Kilmer declined one joke in the script, the bit about cutting off Dieter's penis and shoving it in his mouth.
There was one joke, though, that he refused to do, which was that we did want to cut his penis off and shove it in his mouth.
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Kilmer's early film run
5:17Seth notes Kilmer once told his agent he would only do movies with Top in the title, connecting Top Secret, Real Genius and Top Gun.
At the time he was telling his agent he would only do movies with Top in the title.
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MacGruber's original working title
5:32The film was originally titled Top Genius, and the team sold Kilmer by calling it Top Gruber Top.
Yeah, we sucked him in by calling it Top Gruber Top.
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Kilmer's first line at the table read
8:54Jorma recalls Kilmer's first line, 'open it,' carried so much gravitas that he knew Kilmer was right for the part.
His first line is, open it. And I remember being like, wow, that was really good.
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Malibu meeting with a paper chip
9:43Jorma describes first meeting Kilmer in Malibu, where Kilmer tossed paper Mardi Gras chips at him while claiming to be a king.
And he's going, are you a king? Are you a king? Are you a king?
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Texting Kilmer back
11:04Jorma recalls texting Kilmer after lunch and wondering how to respond to his deadpan absurdity.
I was like, can I write this to Val Kilmer?
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Fans point here
14:531 YouTube comment timestamps this moment, 6 likes.
Do you guys remember when he first showed up on set and was just visiting and he was dressed in this like all white linen suit with like a bolo tie? And I can't remember what he was wearing, but I was just like, this…
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Kilmer's tennis balls at the Chateau
16:02A friend working at the Chateau Marmont recalls Kilmer asking for the tennis balls and building a mattress fort.
And Val goes, yeah. I might need those.
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Kilmer lives with Forte
19:07Kilmer was supposed to stay a few days while finding a new place, but ended up staying about two and a half months.
Yeah, it ended up being two and a half months
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Kilmer binges 30 Rock
20:01Forte remembers Kilmer watching lots of 30 Rock in the dark house, lit only by a hum under the door.
he was watching a ton of 30 Rock.
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The white linen jog
21:40Forte recounts jogging with Kilmer, who joined him in a white linen suit and loafers.
you're going to jog in what you're wearing. And he's like, yeah, let's do it.
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Art-filled apartment in New York
25:52Kilmer took the group to a wealthy friend's apartment packed with valuable art, including a Warhol and a Basquiat.
It was over a hundred million dollars worth of art in this one apartment.
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The gift certificate at Paragon Sports
27:49Kilmer showed Taccone hunting knives at Paragon Sports and gave him a $50 gift certificate.
And he gave me a $50 Paragon Sports gift certificate card.
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Fans point here
31:481 YouTube comment timestamps this moment, 6 likes.
This is another story I told in that article, but while we were making MacGruber, I showed up one day, John and I drove in together and he had this red plaid shirt on, like this kind of a hunter type shirt. And I was…
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Kilmer's fascination with people
33:08Forte describes Kilmer as deeply fascinated by people, which he thinks made him a great actor.
He was fascinated by people. I think that's why he was such a good actor.
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Kilmer's Mark Twain show
37:41The hosts discuss Kilmer's one-man Mark Twain show, which he performed fearlessly, and mention the documentary Cinema Twain.
And then, Mark Twain show, he's, that amazing documentary that they made with Jack
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Kilmer hosts SNL in 2000
44:57Kilmer hosted SNL in December 2000 with U2 as musical guest. Seth was in the audience and met Kilmer at the after-party.
He hosted SNL in 2000, and U2 was the musical guest.
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Fans point here
46:141 YouTube comment timestamps this moment, 6 likes.
He hosted SNL in 2000, and U2 was the musical guest. And it was before I was on the show, but I was in the audience. I had sort of begun my process of being someone that was on the radar of SNL. And Ayala Cohen, who…
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Top Gun 30 years later sketch
47:08Kilmer played Iceman as a bored commercial airline co-pilot in a sketch co-written by Mike Schur.
he is playing Iceman from Top Gun 30 years later with a bit of a paunch and thinning hair.
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Behind the Music parody
48:11Kilmer did a Jim Morrison impression in a Scott Wainio sketch parodying Behind the Music about a band formed in heaven.
And Val Kilmer did his Jim Morrison impression, which was incredible.
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Tom Cruise nearly walks on
50:36Tom Cruise watched the Top Gun sketch live and nearly walked onstage, but the sketch ended before he could.
We missed a Tom Cruise walk-on into the sketch
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The Barkley MacGruber sketch
51:26Seth names the Charles Barkley MacGruber as the perfect three-parter, and Forte calls it his favorite.
the Charles Barkley MacGruber, which I don't believe we talked about
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Like a white Darrell
52:23In the Barkley sketch, MacGruber keeps calling Barkley's character Darrell, which leads to the 'white Darrell' joke.
Oh, like a white Darrell.
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A TV brought down for a game
53:00During the Barkley MacGruber shoot, a championship game was on and the crew brought in a TV, which Kilmer enjoyed.
They did bring down a TV.
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Tribute closing
55:21The hosts close the tribute with farewells, praising Kilmer's kids and his generous spirit.
Rest in peace, Val. Rest in peace.
People and sketches mentioned (23)
Val Kilmer Top Gun Iceman Mike Schur Scott Wainio Robert Carlock Tom Cruise Powers Booth Nicolas Cage Werner Herzog Lorne Michaels Jack Quaid David Mamet Charles Barkley Harmony Korine Mark Twain
MacGruber Top Secret Top Gun Top Gun 30 years later Behind the Music 30 Rock Amazing Race Cinema Twain
Source: whisperx-v2+speakers transcript, read by anthropic/claude-haiku-5.5 on 2026-10-19; audio timestamps mapped to the YouTube cut by word alignment. Timestamps shown are YouTube time. Report a bad pop-up.