Episodes › Ep. 12 2024-06-17 · 57:25
Hot Rod (Again)
Seth, Andy, Akiva, and Jorma reminisce about the 2007 film Hot Rod, covering the cut "baby weenie" line, the editing history of the Cool Beans scene, Will Arnett's sleazy Jonathan, the looting riot montage, and the Vancouver-shot news segment with the "dog came home and ate a pizza" gag. The standout takeaway is the Cool Beans edit saga, and how a cut scene tested as the best in the film. They then turn to the film's editing, the studio's rejected original script and intervention, and its disappointing box office, with an opening of about $5.3M. The movie later found its audience through Netflix. Chris Parnell's narration, stunt and fight scene choices, and a Copenhagen vacation also come up. The main lesson for fans is the studio tension that shaped the film and the lessons the guys drew from its failure.
Heard here, not in the AlmaNick yet
- Vinny chasing “as we call it vinny chasing it where you're just like mehdi and where are we going to shoot it”
- NARCvertising “we did some of that what do we call it narc advertising yeah whatever you were narcvertising”
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Baby weenie line cut from Hot Rod
3:39A Rod/Kevin exchange including 'baby weenie' was shot but cut for a PG rating, a decision the hosts still debate.
We almost put it in.
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Calvin tattoo pee gag
9:36Chris Parnell's AM radio host has a Calvin tattoo peeing on a radio and television, which Akiva explains as a tattoo tracing the urine.
Akiva: He says, I like to think he had sex the night before
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Cool Beans editing saga
12:43The Cool Beans scene was originally a negative test result, then reworked by cutting footage in another room, and became the highest-rated scene at a final test screening.
It was like the highest rated scene in the movie. And we thought it was the most lost of causes.
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John Farnham inspired the riot song
18:47The Australian singer John Farnham's song from the Rad soundtrack inspired the day-of-the-jump montage. Akiva says the team listened to it while prepping.
We would listen to John Farnham. He's Australian, very popular in Australia, but not an American, very well known.
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Lorne's 'now we're really doing it' speech
20:16Akiva recalls Lorne Michaels telling the crew that the movie was real once the big car fire and crane shots came together, noting the energy shift early in the shoot.
Lorne being in a typical kind of Lorne like bird's eye view. He was like, now the crew really knows what movie we're making.
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Fans point here
23:291 YouTube comment timestamps this moment, 75 likes.
There's a really funny scene where the news, right? We've seen this move in films before where all of a sudden a newscaster's on TV giving us some information. Right. The newscaster says, and then the dog came home,…
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Early studio nerves
24:26Producer Allie Shermer warned the team that greenlight was a big deal, while the young filmmakers worried about the unfinished script.
This is a very big deal because she could tell our anxiety and worry because the script wasn't where we wanted it to be
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Vinny chasing defined
24:47The hosts use 'Vinny chasing' as a term for the carefree approach of not worrying about logistics, which Seth says the group never did on Hot Rod.
You guys have never, and I mean this as a compliment, you've never Vinny chased anything.
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Ian McShane and Sissy Spacek casting
25:46The team jokingly suggested Ian McShane and Sissy Spacek as cast, and the producers actually got them, which the hosts found shocking.
And then same with Sissy Spacek. Them being like, what about Sissy Spacek?
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Anchorman IRL
27:20The team shot the news anchor scene with a Vancouver local anchor who read the teleprompter script. Akiva calls it Anchorman in real life, though Jorma notes Anchorman came out after this film.
It was Anchorman IRL.
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The babe wait bit grew longer
29:52Jorma recalls that the scripted line was simply 'babe wait,' and the team extended it into a repeated gag. The editing choice to chop it mid-word implies the bit went on for a long time.
And then I had the great idea to make it longer. What if he kept saying that over and over?
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Seth wrote Parnell's narration
30:22Chris Parnell's narration was largely improvised from Seth's written lines, since the script could not hold every narrated moment. Seth notes that Parnell's dry delivery made him ideal for this.
The reason so many of these are you, Seth, is that like the day before or a couple of days before we realized
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Chris Parnell as a dry technician
31:04Seth praises Chris Parnell's diction and dryness, which made every line of nonsense land. This is why the narration works so well in the film.
Nothing's more fun than writing for Chris Parnell.
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The champion line Jorma loved
33:04Jorma's favorite line in the film, 'You're going to look like a champion, Rod,' was almost cut because the cast worried it was not funny. It became a fan favorite.
I probably did, and now it's my favorite. You're going to look like a champion, Rod.
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Mission Impossible comparison
35:10Seth and Andy riff that a Mission Impossible film should start small and escalate, mirroring how Hot Rod grows into a big studio movie as it goes.
Yeah, it should feel like an indie film.
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Fans point here
35:501 YouTube comment timestamps this moment, 8 likes.
And then it's a wonderful callback to an earlier question you asked Denise when you were obviously going to ask her out. And then you realize she's dating Jonathan and she asks you, what were you going to ask me…
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Hummel figurines
36:16Andy explains that a middle part is 'heaven head,' comparing it to the hairstyle of Hummel figurines, porcelain collectibles favored by older people.
Having a part down the middle is definitely heaven head.
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Scrooge and the Christmas goose
37:01The original plan had snow and bells with Scrooge appearing at Christmas, but the studio rejected it, so Scrooge stayed as a cooked goose-tossing celebrant.
So then we kept Scrooge.
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Europe's album as the soundtrack
38:12The writers listened to Europe's The Final Countdown album while writing, and about six of its songs made it into the film's soundtrack.
I think like six of the songs made it in.
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Frank's shit-himself callback
38:42Frank shitting himself at the end calls back to Denise teaching Rod a Tai Chi move that makes you shit your pants, a neat threading of setups and payoffs.
Denise teaches him the Tai Chi move that makes you shit your pants.
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Fans point here
43:401 YouTube comment timestamps this moment, 75 likes.
Guys, this is the hard part now. You make this film. I watched it, like I said, in the last 24 hours. Really enjoyed it. Holds up really well. It's tight. It's right. Great actors. The movie does not work the way the…
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Editing around SNL schedules
44:13Akiva explains that edits could only happen during SNL off weeks, which was emotionally stressful. Lorne treated SNL as real work and movies as vacations.
Lorne's attitude is always that SNL is real work and movies are like fun summer break vacations.
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Welcome to the Dollhouse influence
46:16The guys referenced Welcome to the Dollhouse as a model for adding emotional sadness to make Hot Rod's characters more relatable, but the studio rejected the direction.
We kept referencing Welcome to the Dollhouse being like, we're going to give it some of the sadness of that
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The studio's notes intervention
47:24The studio called an intervention after reading the 50-page version of the script that had a sadder tone. They reverted the team to the first draft's approach.
And spent two hours with us going page by page. But halfway through, we went, you're just reverting everything.
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Beastie Boys versus Test Icicles
49:22The guys wanted a Test Icicles song in the trailer, but the studio got approval for a Beastie Boys song. Andy later admits the studio's choice would have fit the tone.
We were way in our heads about Beastie Boys.
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Marketing as a star vehicle
50:15Akiva says Hot Rod was marketed as if Andy were a big star, though he had only done one season of SNL and was not yet well known.
I remember them marketing it as if Andy was a star, not somebody that had just done one season of SNL.
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Box office heartbreak
53:01The guys projected a bigger opening but Hot Rod made about $5.3 million, which Jorma describes as genuine heartbreak after seeing the empty theater.
It made 5.3, 5.3 was the answer for the weekend.
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Lorne's Tommy Boy story
53:19Lorne shared a story about Chris Farley reading harsh reviews of Tommy Boy, offering perspective that films can find their audience later.
He told us a story about, that was one of the saddest Chris Farley stories I ever heard
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Reading bad reviews of favorite films
54:17The guys say reading old negative reviews of Billy Madison and other favorites helped them feel better, since critics often misunderstood the comedy.
I remember looking up old reviews for like Billy Madison and stuff.
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Seth's Copenhagen and Amsterdam trip
55:14During the film's release, Seth and friends traveled through Copenhagen, Tivoli Gardens, and Amsterdam, including a surprise Hot Rod poster photo op with a young fan.
We made a million dollars. I will say this.
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Matt Damon in the elevator
57:34At the Hot Rod press junket at the Four Seasons Beverly Hills, Akiva recalls riding an elevator with Matt Damon but not feeling cool enough to introduce themselves.
Well, what I remember, guys, is us at the press junket at the Four Seasons Beverly Hills
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Competing with Bourne Identity
57:51Hot Rod's release weekend was chosen to coincide with The Bourne Ultimatum, a rival film, which the guys felt hurt them.
they chose this weekend where the second Born Identity movie was coming out
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Napoleon Dynamite comparisons
59:58Reviews compared Hot Rod to Napoleon Dynamite, which the guys say missed their intent since they were aiming for other comedies.
there was a lot of comparisons to Napoleon Dynamite
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Cult following after Netflix
1:01:04Hot Rod gained a cult audience years later, especially after it hit Netflix, which Akiva credits for the shift in its reputation.
Hobrod really gained steam when it went on Netflix.
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Digital Shorts kept momentum
1:01:16Andy says returning to SNL with a Digital Short helped the group feel they still had momentum after the film's struggles.
it was so nice to come back to SNL and have a digital short air and work
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Dick in a Box and the movie's marketing
1:01:56Hot Rod was marketed on the Dick in a Box popularity even though it was shot before that digital short aired, showing how promotion shifted around the SNL success.
And then they tried to market Hot Rod on Dick in a Box
People and sketches mentioned (25)
Tim Robinson Will Arnett Chris Parnell John Farnham Ian McShane Sissy Spacek Lauren Allie Shermer Roadhouse Keith Chris Parnell Lauren Lloyd Alison Jones Chris Farley Matt Damon Julian Casablancas Lorne Michaels Matt Bettinelli
Talladega Nights Arrested Development Anchorman Lord of the Rings Lazy Sunday Dick in a Box Iran So Far
Source: whisperx+speakers transcript, read by anthropic/claude-haiku-5.5 on 2026-10-19; audio timestamps mapped to the YouTube cut by word alignment. Timestamps shown are YouTube time. Report a bad pop-up.